Pass and lead a cashing ace. the auction seems fine -- how can I
object to it? I lead A which will not be a ruff and discard and won't
set up more than one discard (and frankly can't really do that either
if partner has my definition of a fit jump, namely one where the sight
of partner leading a top honor against any contract will not upset him).
Pass. And I gobble on. (I am tempted to change my bid on hand 1
to 2NT just to be consistent.) Bidding is ok. You bid 6 to get partner's
opinion. Partner had two chances to voice his opinion and said "whatever
hand you hoped I don't have, well, that is what I hold." I would expect
to be missing a black suit K.
These auctions always call for a trump lead. (I don't think my A is
cashing, I don't think the A is going away, so I guess I start A. We
aren't getting real rich, I don't imagine.)
I bid 7 regardless of partner's double, but I wish I could turn the
diamond jack into a club.... I'd also like to know a bit more about
our agreements on the 4 bid. Can it be a bad hand, i.e. suggesting
a subsequent save? [No. That'd make life too hard on partner. --Jeff]
At these colours I would think it might, [Red on White? --Jeff] which
is worrisome. All the same, I think have a reasonably good expectation
of the spade king, and the king, queen fifth of clubs opposite. Even
at this vulnerability I can't see our getting rich against 7. Unlike
on questions 2 and 3, I will not feel the need to apologise if I get
this one wrong. And yes, I like my auction so far. [Odd. You asked
partner's opinion, then overruled it, and on this hand you don't
feel the need to apologize if you went wrong, whereas on hands that are
simply close judgment calls you would? --Jeff]
If partners dbl of 6 is confirming the K [It's not. It's
showing a preference for defense. --Jeff] then he could hardly have
less than Kxxx ? ? KQxxx; however, I don't expect clubs to break;
however, he might have the J or a 6th club, or a stiff diamond.
[I guess that means he's bidding 7. --Jeff]
I would probably have bid it the same.
Yes, I agree with my previous auction.
What does partner's auction mean? The opponents have given
him this wonderful opportunity to double 6 en route to 7
which, should deny a first round heart control. Therefore,
he could have passed 7 to me. Surely double then double
shows a strong opinion in favor of defending. This said,
let's construct some hands for partner consistent with the auction.
Qxx KJx x KQxxxx. Kxxx KJx x Kxxxx. Kxxx QJx Q KQxxx.
[I agree more or less, but I'd flip the two. I think the double
of 6 just says, "I prefer to defend than to bid on" and the
double of 7 shows no heart control. I can understand how it
might be superior to play them the other way around, but
general principles can't be changed on the fly without a good
chance of error. --Jeff]
It is quite possible to be off either a spade or a club trick
(partner will have a stiff diamond most of the time given the
double portraying heart length and the fit-jump). Partner has
really gotten in the way to express a strong opinion. If he
has the key K and KQ he might well have backed down.
Some will think that since we are holding all the first round
controls partner could never invite 7 himself, but this is flawed
reasoning. Think back to the auction - 6 is the highest available
cuebid. If we only had 2 first round controls, we could have cuebid
cheaper (although it is unclear that 6 would have been a cuebid). [It would
not be, of course. We might have a 5-5 club fit. --Jeff] IMO 6
strongly suggests (shows) first round control in all the side suits.
How will we do on defense? Not so badly.
A, ruff, A, ruff +800: more
than the value of our game. If partner has the A (likely) then we
It is very tempting to overrule partner with 2 extra trumps and so
many controls, but I am going to go with a more disciplined pass,
as if partner had taken either X/P or P/X (I'm not sure the
difference) instead of X/X I would bid 7 with all due haste.
Overall a tough set of hands.
Your bidding is nice. I'm not sure the clever 6 bid would
have occurred to me, but I'd like it to in the future. Because
of that call, I feel good passing 7X. Partner knows you don't
have hearts and is sure you are looking for the grand, but decided
to X instead of bidding 7 so I'll trust him. No point in
cancelling your message of "you decide, partner". If you want to
bid 7 now, you should have done that before instead of 6.
What is your plan? I'll take that as a defensive lead question. The
goal is to get as close to 2210 as possible (hedging against 7's making).
Partner has some hearts, and lots of black cards, so he may have a stiff
diamond. I start A and see what turns up in dummy.
My bidding so far seems fine. I'm not sure what 5NT would have meant
in this auction. If I had a solid agreement that it was GSF, for
example, then I might have been tempted to bid that. 4 sets up a
force, so partner's doubles are telling me not to bid further. But how
could he be telling me anything else but that, since he has an aceless
hand? Should I read anything into LHO's bid of 6? It's clear he was
intending to go to 7 after my bid of 6, so was he just being a
nuisance or is there some meaning to that bid? He's probably just
being a nuisance, although it did allow us to exchange some additional
information that we probably weren't able to take advantage of. For
example, what would double of 6 and then a pass of 7 mean, etc.?
Obviously, a grand could be lay-down here, but the question is, are
the chances good enough to warrant the bid.... I prefer to be
relatively conservative bidding grands, so I think the right answer is
to pass and lead a minor suit ace. Clubs has a chance of getting
ruffed, diamonds has a chance of giving up a trick. On balance, it
seems like the best chance of setting this the maximum amount is
diamond ace, diamond ruff, club, diamond ruff, ... So I lead the
A and see what happens.
Bidding so far seems fine. When your second bid comes at the
6 level, there is only so much you can do. 6 doesn't even begin to
describe just how good your hand is, but at least it's unambiguously
a grand slam try.
As for the subsequent action, it's hard to know what's going on. Why would
LHO screw around with 6 instead of just bidding 7 directly (he is going
to be on lead, and an alternate strain seems unlikely when his partner has
jumped to the five level in hearts), and why would RHO pass instead of
bidding 7? The only purpose seems to be to give our side more bidding
room. Of course, we don't really know what to do with that bidding room, so
I guess it's not a big deal. Anyway, I think partner's actions (double and
double again) show the worst hand possible for the 7 level; unfortunately
this doesn't tell us anything we didn't know from looking at our own hand.
I'll bid 7 (here at my computer terminal, a safe distance from any actual
cards), since even Kxxx xx xx KQxxx is enough. If partner is missing one of
those black honors then it's likely on a finesse, which is anti-percentage,
but hardly the end of the world.
a) Pass. When partner doubled 6 she said, "Please, PLEASE don't bid
more, let me double 7." Presumably this is precisely why I bid 6. I
said that I would trust partner's decision here, so it would be wildly
inconsistent to do anything but pass.
b) Not really. I guess the way things turned out it was probably
right, but I confess I would have bid 7 earlier. If partner doesn't
have at least KQ and KQxxx then I don't wanna play fit jumps any
I always lead trumps against grands. What's that you say? Oh... OK,
then, low club (if we lead 3rd/low, otherwise A). Let partner lead
Pass. Even if partner has KQxx xx xxx KQxxx
I still need 3-2 clubs to make 7.
I don't like 6, because it implies that I don't have first round
diamond control. Perhaps I should have passed 5, and when
partner doubles I cuebid 6 (if partnership is on firm agreement
that spades are always trump). This would imply first round control
of both red suits. [Not me. I play that 6 is an offer to
play there. I open 1 with 5-5 in the blacks, so I might
well want to play the 5-5 fit instead of the 5-4. --Jeff]
I'll lead the A.
7. I like the auction. Assuming partner's double of 6 was a cue attempt,
[It isn't, but he didn't say, "otherwise...", so he's a 7 bidder. --Jeff]
I'll bid the grand. All you need is serious clubs and king fourth of spades.
Partner had lots of raises available and went out of his way to bid this
one. (Interesting bid of 6 by the opponents--hmm.)
So far very nice. Now pass. I already promosed heart control, so the
2 doubles shows strong desire to defend. I will respect partner.
No, I do not agree with the bidding so far. It is obvious after the 5
bid that buying the hand is more important (because they will have an
excellent save) than looking for the unlikely grand, opposite minimum
values and possible bad breaks (partner needs to have Kxxx and
KQJxx). So the bidding target should have been to get to 6 and hope
that you have a club/spade loser. Now, if the opponents can be convinced
that you also have a heart loser, may be they will choose to defend. So,
my choice over 5 will be to bid 6, as if I want to hear 6 from
partner. The alternate strategy of bidding 5 and then hoping to get
'pushed' to 6 may also work against some opponents.
[This is a VERY good point. No, we didn't expect them to be saving,
but we do have the sort of hand that should worry about it; lots of
extra trumps, none of their suit, and aces with no lower honors. On
the other hand, Kxxx + KQJxx is exactly what we expect partner to
have for his 4 bid. --Jeff]
On the auction given, I pass. Partner has heard my 6 and yet has
doubled 6 and 7 showing absolutely no interest in bidding on. I have
no reason to overrule his decision.
Lead the A. I have to try and get the maximum penalty. I cannot burn my entry on
the opening lead. Well, if declarer ruffs this, they may make this silly
contract. But that will mean that partner is 4-0-4-5. Rather unusual to
double 6 and 7. Also RHO perhaps has 7 or 8 hearts -- most unlikely.
["Unusual" is too kind. "Dumb?" --Jeff]
- JEFF AT THE TABLE
wasn't there. I would have bid 5NT (GSF) earlier,
not 6. I don't see how partner is going to be willing to
suggest a grand with no aces, so I would not ask him to make
a decision he can't possibly know enough to get right. I
would think that 7 was making, with seven spades, five
clubs, and the ace of diamonds, so I'd've just bid it,
after making sure partner has the K. I know this might
not work out, but I think the grand is almost always going
to have play and will often be cold. I don't know how
to determine that, so I'd take the plunge.
Once I made a possibly better bid than I would have at the table,
I'd judge to pass. Partner thinks that we should defend,
and trumps are zip-splitting. That might cause some
handling problems. On the other hand, clubs rate to
break, reducing the handling problems somewhat. Still,
I think I'd pass. It's really close.
I'd lead the A, then my low one, and get two ruffs.
Partner has made an effort to show me a diamond stiff,
so I shall get the maximum.
|What to bid now:|
|What to lead:|
|What would you have bid last time?|
6 was OK, pass now, and lead an ace.
- WINNING ACTION
7. Partner has Kxx Kxxx x KQxxx. Spades
are 3-0, as expected, but the hook is on. Clubs break,
so we have 13 tops.
- JEFF THE NEXT DAY
After quite a bit of thought, I think
that the reason partner is showing a taste for defense is
that he has only three spades. This is somewhat more likely
due to my having a couple extra. He knows that trumps are
breaking very badly, so he doesn't want to encourage me to
bid on because a 5-0 or 4-0 trump break might cause handling
problems. I know, however, that it's not a problem; a 3-0
trump split is no problem; partner can't have less than Q98
and I expect him to have better than that. So, upon reflection,
I think I can see what partner's problem is, and I happen to
know enough to be able to bid on. I'm not sure; I'm just
guessing, but it seems like a reasonable guess. Even if
the grand isn't cold, I get good odds on bidding it once
they have saved.
I also, later, thought that maybe a low club is the
better lead. I don't know what partner's trumps are like;
it might turn out that the tap is a better defense. Once
we see the dummy, partner will be in a very good position to
judge whether to go for ruffs, lead trumps, or go for diamond
ruffs. I need to lead low so as to avoid losing my second
entry. There's a small possibility that one of the opponents
have a singleton club, so this lead is not without risk, but
I think the chance to gain is worth it. I'd call it a toss-up
between the A and a low club. Upon reflection, Dan's point
that this can get partner in to lead a trump swings the
balance for me; I didn't think of that until his note.
That's three ways it can win.
Some wondered why LHO bid 6 and whether he can be trusted
to have the spade void he suggests. In theory, of course not;
why would he tell us this? In practice, however, no one would
bid 6 for any reason, and I wasn't playing against Zia. I
think I'd take the bid at face value, expecting LHO to be
0553, 0652, or 0562. This time.
In reality, I was the 4 bidder. Some would not choose 4
on those cards, but I like the action a lot. We'd've had no
chance to reach 7 without it; after 3-5, partner could
not possibly imagine 13 tricks and would simply be guessing.
As our auction went, we could have reached 7. On the other
hand, it also told the opponents that we had a source of
tricks for 6, which may have encouraged them to sacrifice.
It's hard to say; after all, the Michaels bidder did break
In fact, the reason I kept doubling rather than passing to encourage
partner to bid was that I had only three trumps and partner
expected four. With the expected bad break in the suit,
7 may have handling problems. If spades are 5-0, the
problems may be unsolvable on a heart lead. As I mentioned
above, I think partner could have guessed that, but it's
Some think that the opponent's 5 call set up a force for
us. I don't agree with that. RHO knows that if he bids
4, he's going to hear 4 pretty much no matter what, so
bidding 5 should not deny a good hand; it should just be
putting the wood to us. In general, I don't believe that
auctions should be judged forcing or not based on the
opponents' bidding tactics. I've played with and against
far too many creative bidders to be willing to do that.